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Catalan Nationalism, Roger Torrent

Spanish Text from Dolça Catalunya plus translation into English.

German Version

Roger Torrent, 11 June 2017 (53ª ANC Piuladesalafresca)


We introduce you Roger Torrent, ERC, Spain = Franco. / Video below / - A state, we talked earlier with Lorena about it , who drinks from Franquism and therefore is demophobic, - / Lies / There will be a referendum and the results can be applied because they are legitimate. They will be legal and will be fully effective. - Do you expect any kind of prior recognition of the referendum, any institution? Above all, I think internationally. - Certainly it will be. - Previously? Does this mean that there will be a prior positioning? - There will be a prior positioning, and later there will be legal positions. And that is why there will be recognition from the international community. About the results and the applicability of these results.

International support to Catalan independent process
International support to Catalan independent process

 - If the referendum is not approved by the state and wins the YES, but nobody acknowledges this result, what should the Govern (Catalonia) do?  - It's not going to happen. If there is a referendum, there is a minimum stake, and there is a clear result in favor of YES, there will be international recognition.  / He knew it was a coup d'état - putsch / - You know: The high officers from the Generalitat already have a letter from the prosecutor's office saying: Hey, watch out, what you do threatens jail. / And he wanted to proceed / But if someone really doubts, let it go. Whoever has doubts, I repeat it, let it run, let others do it. Because we will do it. It is logical that in what the president (Puigdemont) about the "chain of trust" said, we will observe who is near to us. / He already had the violence in sight / And now that we are in a family, let's say it is clear: it will take weeks, when it will rain, let me say, blows, it will rain blows. / Strokes / / And heated up the riots / When things happen, the last thing that could happen, the last thing we want, if we really want to win, is that Carme Forcadell turns back and there is nobody there. Do you agree this will not happen? You will take the responsibility, we all will be responsible, that this does not happen. That's crucial, right? / To achieve his political goal / We must strive to convince that percentage of people who are not still convinced. I think they will be convince themselves, because as I said, this summer, since it is going to rain the blows at the end, we will have no choice but to be on the side of democracy. / He means Catalan democracy / // Francisco Franco Bahamonde died 20.11.1975, 43 years ago. Since 1978 we have the Constitution in Spain. So, democracy.


Les presentamos a Roger Torrent, Erc, Espanya = Franco. 

- Un estado, antes lo hablábamos con Lorena, que bebe del franquismo, y que por tanto es demofóbico, -

/ mentiras / habrá referéndum, y los resultados se podrán aplicar porque serán legítimos. Serán legales y serán completamente efectivos. 

- Esperan algún tipo de reconocimiento previo del referéndum, de alguna institución? Sobre todo pienso a nivel internacional.
- Seguro que lo habrá. 
- Previo? Quiere decir que habrá algún posicionamiento previo?
- Habrá algún posicionamiento previo, y posteriormente habrá posicionamientos de carácter jurídico. Y por tanto, habrá un reconocimiento por parte de la comunidad internacional. De los resultados y de la aplicabilidad de estos resultados. 
- Si se hace el referéndum no acordado con el Estado y gana el SÍ, pero nadie reconoce este resultado, qué ha de hacer el govern (Cataluña)? 
- NO pasará. Si hay un referéndum, hay una participación mínima, y hay un resultado claro a favor del SÍ, habrá un reconocimiento internacional.
/ Sabía que era un golpe de estado/
- Ya lo sabéis: Los altos cargos de la Generalitat ya tienen una cartita de la fiscalía diciendo: Ey, ojo con lo que hacéis, que os jugáis la cárcel. 
/ Y quería darlo/
Pero si alguien efectivamente duda, que se aparte. Quien tenga dudas, lo repito, que se aparte y deje hacer. Porque vamos a hacerlo. 
Es lógico que en eso que decía el president de "la cadena de confianzas" de alguna otra manera vigilemos al de al lado.
/ Asumía la violencia/ 
Y ahora que estamos en familia, digámoslo claro: Serán semanas en que lloverán, dejádmelo decir, hostias, lloverán hostias. 
/ E incitaba al alzamiento tumultuario /
Cuando pasen cosas de estas, lo último que podría pasar , lo último que desearíamos si es que realmente queremos ganar es que la Carme Forcadell se gire y no haya nadie. Verdad que no pasará esto?
Verdad que vosotros os encargaréis, todos nos encargaremos, de que esto no pase?
Esto es crucial, eh? 
/Para lograr su objetivo político/
Tenemos que hacer este esfuerzo de convencer a este porcentaje de gente que todavía está por convencer. Yo creo que se convencerán solos porque como os decía antes , este verano como nos lloverán hostias al final no tendrán otro remedio que ponerse al lado de la democracia  (Spanish language)

Roger Torrent (ERC) is the new Catalan parliament president, perhaps because no other wanted this well paid position. Normal: it is very likely that he will meet the other prisoners, Oriol Junqueras, Jordi Cuixart, Jordi Sánchez, Carme Forcadell (former Parliament President) and others, not so famous.

Marta Rovira (Ploramiques) has flown, Carlos Puigdemont too. He is currently in Berlin, after € 75,000 bail, which makes 75x thousand net salary. Money is no problem in nationalist Catalonia, Jordi Pujol had saved a lot and invested in the process (procès in Catalan, so a unique language).
ANC, Òmnium, plus other minor "cultural" associations such as Ascuma, have received millions to promote the Catalan language, which is a milestone for the process, absorving the languages Valencià, Balear , the aragonese dialect Chapurriau, destroying catalan dialects like Tortosí, and using nationalistic terms like País Valencià, Valencian Country, Països Catalans, Catalan Countries, franja d'Aragó, an eastern territory from Aragon where Catalan is said to be historically spoken and written. Corona catalano-aragonesa, for the Aragonese Crown. Plus the recent flags, estelada, starred flag, and yellow laces as symbols.

This video shows four doctors or University teachers who would like to ban Spanish if Catalonia was independent. The reason: Spanish threatens Catalan. This could be compared with Northern Ireland banning English for the sake of Irish Gaelic. The same would happen in Euskadi, País Vasco, Pays Basque with Spanish, for the sake of Euskera, vascuence. Audio, catalan, subtitles, Spanish.
 ara que estem en familia” . Now we are in Family. It sounds like in The Godfather film, isn't it ?  
Dolça i fanàtica Catalunya… Sweet and fanatic Catalonia...

Soon on the cinema:
The Boy in the starred Pyjamas (film) 
El niño con el pijama de estelada, Carles Puigdemont, Artur Mas

Roger Torrent with Spanish judges. He talks about political prisoners and

some judges go away. He should talk about politicians in jail.

German Businessmen Summit in Barcelona. This man says in Spanish, approximately:

I think you all have to go to jail.

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